Off duty, on call: Legislative action would protect police doing security work after shift duties end
by Rebecca Walker
Star Staff Writer
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Shown Monday evening at Glen Addie homes, Tim Suits and Clint Parris work for the Anniston Housing Authority outside of their regular hours as Anniston police officers. (Star photo by Bill Wilson)
Shown Monday evening at Glen Addie homes, Tim Suits and Clint Parris work for the Anniston Housing Authority outside of their regular hours as Anniston police officers. (Star photo by Bill Wilson)
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By Rebecca Walker

rwalker@annistonstar.com

In Alabama, assaulting a law enforcement officer in the line of duty is a felony, but only if he or she is on the clock. If a proposal now in front of state legislators becomes law, assaulting uniformed officers working off duty can be a felony as well.

For many officers, working as security guards for sporting events, banks and other businesses is a way to supplement income.

All public school systems in Alabama hire off-duty officers as security for ball games, said Bill Kennedy, Talladega County sheriff’s captain and legislative chairman of the state Fraternal Order of Police. He’s worked closely with lawmakers and district attorneys to craft the proposed bills now working their way through the House and Senate to strengthen officers’ legal protection.

Kennedy said he saw the need for this legislation after a Talladega County deputy was assaulted as a security guard, but the suspect was charged with a misdemeanor.

“Circuit and appellate courts said he was a security guard at the time because he was not in uniform and not working for the county,” Kennedy said. “I didn’t know we had a switch that gets flipped on and off.”

Officers working security while off duty currently cannot investigate crimes they did not witness, Kennedy said.

“It’s catchy, because if we see a crime committed in front of us, we become a police officer automatically. But if you’re at a football game, and there’s a fight and you don’t actually witness it, then when the principal comes up to get a police officer, you’re just a security guard,” he said.

The proposed legislation will give off-duty officers hired by private parties the legal rights and protections afforded on-duty officers. The only difference will be who pays them. If the bill doesn’t pass, Kennedy said, hiring off-duty officers could become expensive.

“They will have to reimburse wages, FICA, retirement — the whole works,” he said.

Jacksonville schools Superintendent Eric Mackey said the school system’s employment of off-duty cops is vital. His system hires Jacksonville officers at least 40 nights a year, he said.

“I wouldn’t even want to think about what we’d do (without off-duty officers),” he said. “If something happened, we’d have to call for officers. It could be a terrible situation.”

Mackey said the simple presence of a uniformed officer can insert calm into a tense situation. He recalled a basketball tournament in which an officer had to ask an unruly parent to leave.

“I can’t imagine if school staff had asked him to leave,” he said. “If an altercation took place, we’re not able to handle that. It could escalate before police arrive.”

The proposed legislation requires off-duty officers to obtain permission from their supervisors before serving in uniform as a security guard, said House bill sponsor Rep. Randy Wood, R-Saks. Most already have that requirement, he said.

Senators Del Marsh, R-Anniston, and Jim Preuitt, D-Talladega, are sponsors of a similar bill in the Senate. Attempts to contact Marsh and Preuitt Monday were unsuccessful.

In the Senate, the bill stalled after its first reading on Jan. 19. The House version is ready to go to the floor for a vote, Wood said.

The bill could require increased expenditure of local funds if passed. Wood said the cost would be minimal, and would probably be caused by a higher cost of liability.

“But you talk about saving someone’s life — you can’t put a price on that,” he said.

Contact Star staff writer Rebecca Walker at 256-235-3562.

comments (18)
« tvman58@att.net wrote on Friday, Mar 05 at 10:30 AM »
Tugboat, you are right as in my comment below I stated this : "Religion and inteligence go hand in hand and is it any wonder we are not in total failure here in this state." Where inteligence is stated in the comment should have been ignorance, and I apologize for the mistake that was typed in error. Thank you for pointing out the error so promptly.
« tugboat2@inbox.com wrote on Friday, Mar 05 at 09:56 AM »
DD, is the pot calling the kettle black??
« tvman58@att.net wrote on Friday, Mar 05 at 08:28 AM »
LiveFreeorDie ,Your obsession with religion has your eyes blinded and your ears stopped up. If you already think that you have the answers then you will not be looking for anything other than what you have latched onto. For your information the good ole USA ranks 29th in the world to personal freedoms and libertys. You will not see that on Fox or any talking head network on tv or radio. You can't find what you are not looking for. You wonder why we have so many problems here in Alabama with politics, the police, drugs, and crime? Alabama ranks number two in the country as religion being very important to the average individual(84 percent). Only Mississippi has more problems than we do and they rank as number one in the country as far as religion goes. Religion and inteligence go hand in hand and is it any wonder we are not in total failure here in this state. Believe what you want to but I would rather know the absolute truth, as even your book tells you to prove all things, but who reads anymore.. Thanks for your remarks meroll ,I did some work for golf courses back then . Which one were you at????
« meroll8993@gmail.com wrote on Friday, Mar 05 at 06:18 AM »
DarrylDavis....You didn't happen to work for a golf course back in the 90's did you?...If it's you...Remember the Goose.
« jeffcrowconst@msn.com wrote on Thursday, Mar 04 at 08:58 PM »
DD

I will have to agree with you that we are not 100% free.

America is also the most horrible overbearing country in the world with the exception of all the rest.

I am not very financially stable right now but if you are willing to renounce your citizenship and move to another country never to return and relinquish your passport, I will pay for your plane ticket. No kidding, honest offer.

The world is your buffet............

If you decide you would rather stay, lets find out how to make the USA better!
« tvman58@att.net wrote on Thursday, Mar 04 at 01:00 PM »
LiveFreeorDie , The only thing the country needs protecting from are the traitors in Washington and their protectors and enforcers of the policy that they make up daily , the police. If you or your family are involved with the police or government then you will naturally take up for what they do whether good or evil.

In a world of lies and deception did you ever think you would hear truth come out of anyones mouth unless it is verified and tested? What is happening right before your eyes is a bonified police state being put together to keep the herd in line and act the way that government sees fit.From what I read in the paper , there are more people dead at the hands of the police than there are police being killed. I guess it depends on which side of the line you are standing on that determines your viewpoint right?You name says LiveFreeorDie but are you really free ? Look up factual truth and you will see that we are not so free after all.
« jeffcrowconst@msn.com wrote on Thursday, Mar 04 at 07:15 AM »
Hulsey

You must have me mixed up with someone on the camera comment, it's not mine.

It seems we agree on some of the problem. Take a look at what propmted the bill in the article. It was a crazy ruling from a judge legislating his beliefs from the bench. That's one reason we have a huge state constitution is to counteract these judges stupid case law.

I don't agree with the hate crimes law either. We are all protected by the same laws and the law should be applied equally which it is not. We need to do away with these country club federal detention facilites and let everyone sit in the same hole.

Thanks for the discussion.

« hulsey76@gmail.com wrote on Thursday, Mar 04 at 05:59 AM »
LiveFreeOrDie,

I'm not anti-Police. I'm anti-policy. I believe that the law enforcement model employed by most departments in the U.S. is ineffective and creates an adversarial relationship between the Police and the People. We don't trust the Cops, and the Cops don't trust us. This I believe is because of the recruiting and training standards used by agencies, and the overall view of the role of law enforcement held by Politicians and Bureaucrats. These are decisions that are made well out of the influence of the public or of the Officer. Before we go calling the Police "heroes," let's not overlook Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005) and Deshaney v. Winnebago County (1989) - two Supreme Court rulings that held that the mandate of Police is to protect the property and interest of the State, and not to protect the rights or safety of the individual citizens. That effectively makes them a private security force funded by public money. Should we treat Mall-Cops as heroes too for protecting Spencer's and the food court?

I still believe that this proposed law is just as Constitutionally bankrupt as the Hate Crimes Legislation that values one life more than another simply because of class or status.

Your advocation of cameras scares me. We are already under enough government surveillance that violates our privacy. This is not the Soviet Union. It is too easy for the system to use those cameras to quash dissent and speech.

I do agree that more resources should be devoted to real criminal investigations, and not on generating county revenue on the backs of motorists. USA Today did a great story a year ago about Officers who have left the job disillusioned that they were nothing more that an extension of the revenue department, and not really making a difference for their communities since during the recession they have been reassigned to full time traffic ticket duty instead of crime prevention and investigations.
« jeffcrowconst@msn.com wrote on Wednesday, Mar 03 at 06:37 PM »
Darryl and Hulsey

Let me first say that I don't automatically give "police" a pass and am not real impressed with the service we get out of our troopers for what we pay them. I for one think we shold have troopers working more crimes as investigators and less trafic citations. We can hire cameras alot cheaper than paying a officer to run traffic.

I don't think either of you have ever carried a firearm in defense of our city, county, state or country. I have. I am certain you have never been shot at in the performance of your duties, I have.

Please take some time to research a fairly recent incident in Cleburne county where Officer Howell made a routine traffic stop over a equipment violation and the driver shot him in the face. Howell would have died right there if a reserve non paid deputy had not been riding with him that night. Howell is still not right and never will be. Yes officers know what the pay is and what they are getting into but you might consider cutting some of them some slack.

In particular you might consider thanking Howell for taking one for all of us.
« allen4au@gmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Mar 03 at 04:46 PM »
You're right..this country is headed down a dangerous path...and the ones in Washington are taking us there...

"Since 911, the police have been put on a pedestal and deified as gods who can do no wrong" Really? Must have missed the memo on that one. Pin on the badge, strap on a gun and give it a try there sport.

Hulsey76 Re your facts already in 2010 there have been 34 Officers killed....up 112% over last year...and as for your badge bunny comment, apparently someone is a little green...just an observation...

Proud Law Enforecment Officer of 17 years and numerous critical incidents...and still proudly serving!

« allen4au@gmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Mar 03 at 04:39 PM »
« tvman58@att.net wrote on Wednesday, Mar 03 at 07:25 AM »
Hulsey76, I have to agree with you 100 percent. You have done something that most have not and that is done your homework. Since 911, the police have been put on a pedestal and deified as gods who can do no wrong. Look at the picture in this article of these two authoritarians with their arms folded like they think they are the Jolly Green Giant. Most in this area are very religious and are taught since they were young that submission to government and authority is what is expected of them if they call themselves a christian, otherwise they lose their salvation.(Romans chapter 13). These folks are hopelessly lost when it pertains to waking up from all of the endocrination. It's refreshing to see remarks like yours on this comment board.History repeats itself over and over again and it is happening again here and all over this country. For those with any understanding we are reliving Berlin 1939 under a government that keeps wanting more and more power. The police have turned into thugs in a lot of places and too much power does corrupt the man. I believe that the problem is too out of hand and too few know that there is a problem. We as a country are headed down a bad road. Thanks for your comment
« hulsey76@gmail.com wrote on Tuesday, Mar 02 at 11:45 PM »
Cops are citizens just like the rest of us. No doubt they have a difficult job, but they know that going into it. I don't think anyone becomes an Officer to get rich or famous. They know what they're signing up for.

This legislation is the type of thing that scares me and should scare any freedom loving person. If a Police Officer is in his official uniform, or has reasonably identified himself as an Officer, then yes, whatever you do against him you have done against an Officer. However, if he is not identified as an Officer, or is wearing the uniform of a non law-enforcement agency or company, he is acting as a civilian, and an altercation with him should be treated as an altercation between civilians. Unless I have misunderstood this proposed law, it gives Cops way too much leeway.

And for those Badge-Bunnies out there, who think Cops can do no wrong - here are the facts:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Police work isn't the most dangerous profession. In fact, in 2008 144 Officers were killed. 50% of fatalities were traffic related - only 32% were homicides. That's one in 6,136. Not exactly the most dangerous job when you consider that 715 Truck Drivers were killed. 317 Farmers died performing their job. 227 Groundskeepers were killed on duty. 720 Construction Workers lost their lives at work.

As far as the low pay, the median per-capita income in the State of Alabama is 18,189 according to the U.S. Census. The Median Household Income (for all persons in the household working) was 42,586. The Median Annual Salary for one Police Officer in Alabama was 35,670. I'd say the Police are making pretty good money, especially when you consider the State benefits.

We have to keep these things in perspective before we go knee-jerking into legislation that is not good for the people. One final thought: How would not passing this Bill make hiring off-duty Cops any more expensive than it is now, without such a law? That doesn't even make sense.
« jeffcrowconst@msn.com wrote on Tuesday, Mar 02 at 07:03 PM »
Hoot

I understand your frustration and agree that our officers should be paid more.

The real question is if you are will stay mad enough to do anything about this. You can start doing some research and pick one Judge or one elected official that makes you sick and work you butt off to defeat them this year. Remember we are a nation of laws, rules and regulations. Just because they don't follow them doesn't mean it gives us the right to follow their example. Do the research, get the facts and make a difference.
« Hootchapappy@cableone.net wrote on Tuesday, Mar 02 at 09:29 AM »
I'm not nor have I ever been a Law Officer. However, it's my understanding that they are on duty 24/7, whether they be in uniform or not. Also, the only time that they aren't allowed to carry a firearm is when they are drinking alcohol, or on heavy medications, which is very understandable. They are also on call 24/7, which again tells me they are FULL TIME officers 24 hours a day, not just 8 hours a day or shift. Their regular jobs don't pay very well and to me is a joke. I guess it's ok to pay higher paychecks to people with low risk factors that don't do much of anything such as Mayor's, DA's, County and City Board Members, Judges, etc., but for the person that actually puts their life on the line to protect us? They barely make over minimum wages? It's about time for everyone to open their eyes and start paying people what they are worth. The more you are at risk, the higher the pay should be. Just like a Judge, no matter where the Officer goes, his badge or title goes with him/her. And if these Judges and Lawyers would STOP letting bad criminals off the hook and start punishing them equally and harshly, the amount of crime would drop drastically. You say the jails and prison systems are overcrowded? Well, quit making it so easy for these inmates and they won't be doing things that keep putting them there. Once in jail, they should never leave their cells until their time is up, PERIOD. If someone wants to hire an Off-Duty Officer, to me, they are hiring a Police Officer and he/she has the same authority as when they are on duty.
« jeffcrowconst@msn.com wrote on Tuesday, Mar 02 at 07:21 AM »
sl88

I come from a family with multiple law enforcment officers.

As far as I know the schools and other organizations are free to hire anyone they want. The real issue is that with private security you only get what you pay for and that usually means that the individual has not been to the academy and does not have arrest powers. Now don't get me wrong in that I am criticizing some of the security individuals which I am not.

With a security individual they have no arrest powers and if a situation occured they would have to supervise the individual until officers arrived. In reality all they can do is ask nicely and as a last resort forcefully. If the individual calls their bluff they can't respond any further.

I am definately opposed to big government but with the existing laws this to me is one of those rare situations where I think that government has provided a product without out any tax dollars being involved, if we ignore the cost of the car, and the public is willing to pay the bill for the service. In reality government is not the real provider but the individuals themselves. The departments usually support the process with the cars because it does provide a service to the community at a reduced rate.

Years ago I ran a midweek paper route in Hobson City and met some of the nicest old men and women you could imagine. Why do we need to have offficers in the government provided in the gov't projects anyway. It's our fault for not being tough enough on the crime. Those good folks are under seige and we all need to help them out. That might be assisting with neighborhood watches but more likely booting out the sorry lawyers and judges that help to perpetuate crime and criminals. We have a couple of good prospects to give the boot to in Calhoun and the surrounding counties this year. The officers do their job but the judges, juries and we the citizens have allowed it to become a catch and release game.
« sonnylong88@yahoo.com wrote on Tuesday, Mar 02 at 06:58 AM »
CONTINUED:

Sounds like unfair government competition with small business.
« sl88 wrote on Tuesday, Mar 02 at 06:50 AM »
Why can't the private uniform security companies do the job. There are local private security companies that are uniformed and armed.

They are saying;"The only difference will be who pays them" and if it doesn’t pass, hiring off-duty officers could become expensive.“They will have to reimburse wages, FICA, retirement — the whole works....